For a gallery of Incineroar's hitboxes, see here. Lord__Xander 1 year ago #2. I’m new to amiibo training! Then just grab him, if you grab him he loses his revenge. While the hitboxes on its moves are large, Incineroar's overall range remains somewhat short, so any sufficiently long-ranged projectile or disjointed range can be enough to keep Incineroar at bay. It is instead fought on. Unsurprisingly for a character based on wrestling, Incineroar's greatest asset comes from its excellent grab game. animations based on how he dies. Any later is a failure and results in Back Body Drop or Chest Bounce. 727Incineroar.png 591 KB. Finally, all of its smash attacks have their unique perks: forward smash comes out surprisingly quickly, kills extremely early when sweetspotted at the foot (being the fourth strongest when sweetspotted), and deals good shield damage; up smash has a wide hitbox that is useful for both anti-air tactics and damage racking; and down smash momentarily shifts Incineroar's hurtbox upwards, allowing it to dodge grabs, attacks, and even projectiles to act as a hard punish. Incineroar's low air speed and high falling speed and gravity further add insult to injury. Back throw, when performed at the ledge, can potentially rival Ness' own back throw as the strongest throw in the game, and can KO light characters exceptionally early; however, due to its launch angle, lack of damage during the actual throw (as it consists of a hit before the opponent is thrown), and lackluster resistance to DI, it can be survived if done mid-stage and technically can be considered inferior to Ness'. Using its down taunt alongside multiple Pikachu and Pichu on Paper Mario. Forward aerial gained a late hitbox, which makes the move function similarly to Diddy Kong's forward aerial, while down aerial's meteor smashing hitbox is now significantly easier to land. However, it is the overall slowest character in the game, with the slowest walking and dashing speeds in the game, and the eighth slowest initial dash and air speed. Its poor neutral game further contributes to this, as it can make it very difficult for Incineroar to even get back to a position where it can try to exploit the opponent's offense or defense. It is also available periodically for purchase in the shop for 500 coins. Beating a spam incineroar. While its throws are all strong and some of its other moves possess high knockback at low percentages as a result of their high base knockback, their knockback doesn't grow quickly due to their surprisingly low knockback scaling; notable examples of this are neutral and back aerials, back throw, Darkest Lariat and Alolan Whip's early hit. You can use miniature innovations like this to carve out a niche in the meta. Down aerial is a powerful meteor smash that can still KO even if the sourspot hits, and at lower percentages, sets the opponent up for a combo. Additionally, all rounds aside from the final round take place on Boxing Ring. This page was last edited on December 1, 2020, at 16:08. Morton and Ludwig are only characters in Incineroar's Classic Mode route that aren't a super-heavyweight, instead being a normal heavyweight. In particular, the character’s down smash created a splash that can cause damage on both sides of it. Incineroar is the only playable Pokémon that does not have a special move based on a Pokémon move of its primary type. As part of a near-universal buff to multi-hit attacks, update 3.1.0 buffed neutral attack by adjusting its hits in order for them to connect more reliably. Unlocking Incineroar in World of Light allows the player to preview the first spirit below in the Spirit List under the name "???". Incineroar's opponents are all heavy characters and are stylized in a way as if it was similar to a Championship Tournament. If you feel that you can’t punish his side B, try to get some distance away from Incineroar instead. Jump over missiles, land down air, up air racks up free damage, and bam. Note: All numbers are listed as base damage, without the 1v1 multiplier. Aggressive at close combat. It’s not ideal, but the vast majority of Incineroar amiibo spam side B to no end, using down smash at the edge, and never doing anything else. Each fighter spirit has an alternate version that replaces them with their artwork in Ultimate. …Where do I begin? Because of this, Incineroar is a high risk, high reward type of character, and benefits from a patient, largely bait-and-punish oriented playstyle in order to achieve the same momentum its other super heavyweights can. This is, move that allows Incineroar’s Ridley matchup to become winnable. As mentioned before, Incineroar possesses abysmal mobility; when combined with a lack of a projectile, this makes it very easy to zone out and gives it a terrible approach. Up air is, quite frankly, the most important non-side B move in Incineroar’s kit. Up tilt and down tilt serve similar purposes, being combo starters that can set up into Incineroar's other moves; whereas up tilt can link into itself at low percentages and into aerials at low-mid to mid ones, and serves as an anti-air due to invincibility on Incineroar's head, down tilt has longer range, lowers its hurtbox, and has excellent combo potential throughout all percent ranges, allowing combos into up tilt or up smash at low percents or aerials at high percents, including KO confirms into back aerial, up aerial or Darkest Lariat. ( Log Out / It’s not a particularly useful move, but it can get KOs that most amiibo are unprepared for. This is the move that allows Incineroar’s Ridley matchup to become winnable. Neutral/Forward+B - He spins around his opponent, then performs a back drop. Forward throw has high knockback even at low percentages, making it an acceptable throw to set up an edgeguard at percentages where down throw won't combo anymore, and to KO at high percentages near the edge. Up air flat-out, Lucas, it works as a damage racker against Ridley, and makes the Mii Gunner matchup a. matchup for Incineroar. Forward smash is not a huge deal for Incineroar, but it does help in some matchups, and the amiibo should see it at least once or twice in training. He is, no doubt, one of the best Incineroars. Around its waist is a flaming organ resembling a championship belt. Styles differ only in special moves. Unlike most other hard hitters, Incineroar's weaker attacks are semi-reliable combo starters that work at a wide percent range, giving its moveset an excellent amount of utility. In bulk, this gives Incineroar one of the most lackluster neutral games of any character, being one of the characters with the most trouble at getting close to opponents to begin with, and forces it to heavily rely on bait-and-punish tactics in order to get in. My Incineroar, Endeavor, was ranked Top 3 in all of amiibo from about January until the rankings were abolished; and has 2 wins, 2 second places, and at least 6 top 3 placements to date. Artwork of all playable Pokémon characters and Poké Ball Pokémon, as posted by the official Pokémon Twitter account. This also applies to, Incineroar is the only playable character who was not in the game's original project plan when it was drafted in December 2015. This can also result in the opponent's shield being broken if they keep shielding, leading to their doom. All-Out Pummeling will always OHKO opposing Kartana, Incineroar, and offensive Kyurem-B at neutral, and even has a chance to OHKO standard Incineroar at -1 and Assault Vest Kyurem-B at neutral. Don't Starve Together Customize your wilderness adventure! Up air flat-out destroys Lucas, it works as a damage racker against Ridley, and makes the Mii Gunner matchup a good matchup for Incineroar. Like they could literally just be using side b and neutral b and I could still lose (not really but you get the point) ... incineroar is my secondary so it's good to know i can make him op in smash too (already op in pokemon)I would 100% rather play against Incin in Smash than in Pokémon lol. D-throw is your main combo throw and can connect to u-tilt even at higher % D-tilt is a good combo starter into fair / uair or mix ups. Excellent throws, including the strongest back throw in the game. Contrary to its sluggish movement and high weight, Incineroar's frame data is surprisingly above average, with fast to decent startup and respectable ending lag in spite of their damage. Play VS. matches, with Incineroar being the 46th character to be unlocked. Instead of down throw to forward air or up air, try down throw to short hop neutral b. As with most other heavyweights, rage helps Incineroar seal out stocks easier, and it's able to take advantage of it easily thanks to its high weight. Its eyes are green with a yellow sclerae. 12% (throw), 6% (front collateral), 4% (back collateral). This is especially troublesome considering the cast is also full of characters with either greater mobility (like Sonic or Zero Suit Samus), superior melee range (like Lucina or Donkey Kong), good zoning games (like Villager or Min Min), or in some cases, all three points (like Sheik, Pikachu or Palutena). That said, Alolan Whip can intercept edgeguard attempts thanks to the failure version, allowing Incineroar to reverse the situation. Create and upload new mods to add new characters, items, and game mechanics to Don't Starve Together. Generally useful for combo chains. The move deals decent damage if perfectly timed, the recoil is negated with good timing, and the knockback can be incredible, with the move even killing at higher percentages. Incineroar also has different voice actors for the French and German versions due to its name being different in those languages, being voiced by Frédéric Clou in French and an unknown voice actor in German. From SmashWiki, the Super Smash Bros. wiki, This article is about Incineroar's appearance in. Note: Incineroar teams up with Greninja in the third and final round. Neutral attack's third hit became more powerful, thus noticeably improving its reliability in regard to warding off opponents. Auto-cancels from a short hop. It’s especially important because Alolan Whip can send opponents straight up. Further adding to this is Incineroar's poor air game. As a result of these changes, Incineroar fares better than it initially did during the game's release. Down air is nearly useless unless landing, as it’s risky for Incineroar to use it normally. The truly ideal Incineroar amiibo does use a lot of side B, and down smash at the ledge, but also throws in a half dozen other moves, using down air, up air, forward smash, up smash, down B, and forward throw. Its biggest issue comes from its miserable neutral game. Finally, Revenge is a unique counterattack that retaliates with a weak hit, but stores a stackable power increase that affects Incineroar's next move; with a sufficiently strong buff, it grants exorbitantly powerful punishes, with moves such as forward smash, Darkest Lariat, Alolan Whip, and most infamously back throw turning into some of the strongest attacks in the game. Incineroar was one of the many fighters that fell under Dharkon's control upon Galeem's first defeat. Incineroar's fighter spirit can be obtained by completing Classic Mode. Altogether, all these flaws collectively result in Incineroar having a poor disadvantage. 3. That’s why a lot of Incineroar amiibo lose in tournaments, as running into a Ridley, Mii Gunner, or Ness sends them straight to the loser’s bracket. Due to the way the hitboxes work, however, the move will always poke or break shields unless the opponent perfect shieldsor dodges the last hit. I personally don’t use it, but some amiibo use it, as it deals decent knockback that usually kills amiibo with bad recoveries- including other Incineroars. User Info: Lord__Xander. Despite this, as the metagame progressed, Incineroar's representation has been noticeably limited overall, with below-average results at major tournaments. ( Log Out / 2. While Incineroar's grab range is average, its grabs are decently quick, last longer than average (though its dash grab and pivot grab are slow), and all of its throws deal high damage. Darkest Lariat along with effective grabs makes shielding ineffective against Incineroar. If you have a good competitive moveset for Incineroar, post an answer below and upvote the best ones.Movesets for its pre-evolutions, if any, can also be shared on this thread. If it's not able to break through combos, its slow movement speed can leave it very vulnerable to consistent rushdowns, in addition to being vulnerable to zoning and spacing. Called the Heel Pokémon, it has a showman-like behavior. From the start of Ultimate, Incineroar has usually been considered a mid-tier by most professionals, with access to moves that have the potential to deal high knockback and damage thanks to Revenge, a powerful back throw that can potentially KO earlier than Ness', and a suicide KOing option in the form of Cross Chop, which can be performed out of a down throw. Darkest Lariat is Incineroar's get-off-me option, possessing fast startup (being tied for neutral attack and neutral aerial as its second fastest attack), a long duration, transcendent priority throughout its hitboxes, invincibility on its arms, and a very strong early hit. Revenge can patch this issue to a degree, but this requires Incineroar to read the opponent's attack in the first place, and the buff is lost once it has succesfully landed an attack, meaning that if Incineroar is forced to attack with one of its weaker moves, it is possible to waste the buff entirely. This move matters more than most trainers realize. Finally, although its moveset has greatly damaging options, Incineroar has surprisingly inconsistent KO power compared to many of its fellow super heavyweights. items, abilities, natures and EVs.Some detail, including the intended game mode for your set, is also appreciated. Darkest Lariat has high priority and knockback. Upon execution, the player must press the attack or special button again after the throw initiates, and depending on timing, it has three outcomes: performing it early will inflict high vertical knockback that scales slowly, performing it too late will result in the opponent harmlessly bouncing back while damaging Incineroar, and performing it cleanly (as the opponent is about to crash into Incineroar) deals very high horizontal knockback at a low angle and constitutes the move's main part, as it's one of Incineroar's strongest moves. A legsweep. The buff can also be gradually lost by attacking Incineroar, by waiting a certain amount of time -which is possible due to Incineroar's susceptibility to being outspaced or camped-, or outright wasted by throwing Incineroar, either by a regular or command grab, further adding to its inconsistency. It was confirmed as a playable character alongside Ken and Piranha Plant on November 1st, 2018. His Darkest Lariat (Neutral B). 727Incineroar SM anime.png 19 KB. Has a wide hitbox above Incineroar and grants Incineroar's head. Clear Classic Mode with Samus or any character in her unlock tree, being the 4th character unlocked after Pit. How do you neutral b wavebounce with c stick macro in the air? He has revenge? You can discuss this issue on … With the exception of the third method, Incineroar must then be defeated on Boxing Ring. Additionally, Incineroar suffers from issues similar to Ganondorf, where its very weak mobility, lack of projectile, melee range and lack of reliable aerials for approaching collectively make it just as easily kept in control by its weak mobility, and an opening on its end is costly due to its limited recovery, and despite having better options to break pressure at close quarters. Based on what I’ve seen). Notably, some of Incineroar's moves require landing a sweetspot in order to attain their maximum knockback, as they're otherwise not as strong as its fellow super heavyweights; notable cases include forward tilt (despite the sweetspot being the strongest in the game), forward smash and forward and back aerials. To finish off, any semi-spike or meteor smash of sufficient strength is all it takes for Incineroar to be KO'd, and any combo that drags it offstage is usually fatal if its not at a high enough altitude to recover. It also had a decent amount of success from players, especially Magister, who placed well at both regional and national tournaments. Its forward, back and up throws are all strong (with up throw being the strongest one in the game), while down throw, while being its only combo throw, is the core of its combo game. How to use an iPhone to submit amiibo files – Explained Simply, No Jailbreak, Competing with amiibo: the starter’s guide to Tagmo and Powersaves, How to Install Powersaves for amiibo – Explained Simply, Amiibo Doctor’s Recommended Stagelist & Ruleset, Amiibo Science: How to Give Your Amiibo a Brain Transplant, Amiibo Science: What could be possible with the Brain Transplant, and what we have done so far, Defining and explaining the Utility formula, Why Sheik is a perfect example of the Utility formula at work, Smash Ultimate Amiibo Tier List – November 2020, October 2020 SUAL Amiibo Tier List – Smash Ultimate. Despite only using one leg for the attack, both of Incineroar's legs gain intangibility during the move (the attacking leg lasts on frames 8-11, while the other leg lasts on frames 9-11).